new forces/factions? what say you [Archive]

icehollowpoint

2nd April 2007, 06:50 PM

so who would like to see some new factions or changes to current factions? post who , what , why pretty much

my list :
current USMC : give them their M16A4s and appropriate mods goddamit!
US army : no the US army and the USMC are not the same thing , id like to see the US army in whatever form they may arise in.
German army/Bundeswehr : brilliant... i don't care if POE2 had them , POE2 although great , if it's compared to PR it looks like a nasty pile of ****.
Private Military Contractors : just pure awesomeness , theres also a good chance for some interesting kit decisions here.

and of course....... AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE FORCE !!! and it annoys me so much because they could be added soooo easily if the Aus Forces mod stop being so tight arsed about their content.

as a side note : i'd like to see some well done airborne maps , it's been possible since BF: vietnam and even possibly BF1942 , so it wouldnt be hard to implement a airborne spawn point (specifically a plane or the like).

ThePhotoshop

2nd April 2007, 07:05 PM

Russians.

Because I love their accents.

Plus, they have a lot of history to go off, and you could create some fantastic levels based around it.

Sandy_Beret

2nd April 2007, 07:26 PM

We really, really need a "Morris Dancer" faction...
The ancient art form of Handkerchief Throttling....
http://www.tournorfolk.co.u k/wells/wellsmorrisdancing.j pg

icehollowpoint

2nd April 2007, 07:40 PM

Russians.

Because I love their accents.

Plus, they have a lot of history to go off, and you could create some fantastic levels based around it.

that's true , it was never said that PR is based around any current wars , the possibilities of factions could cover any they pleased.

sandy : what......the....f*c k.....

catwaterboy

2nd April 2007, 07:59 PM

Russians.

Because I love their accents.

Plus, they have a lot of history to go off, and you could create some fantastic levels based around it.
so so true :P now we need some new snowy levels :P

Lucid Nightmare

2nd April 2007, 09:03 PM

Yeah, +1 for russians, not gonna happen anytime soon though. What with the devs working on 6+ teams already and all......

icehollowpoint

2nd April 2007, 10:49 PM

on another note , what do people think of the Brit Spec ops getting the C7 rifle instead of their carbine? to give you a quick idea of what it would be like , imagine the current M16 equipped with automatic in place of the burst and a ELCAN optic.

could be good or bad. im undecided :roll:

ThePhotoshop

3rd April 2007, 09:07 AM

Bad.

Current Brit Spec Ops gun is sexy.

daveee

3rd April 2007, 09:32 AM

Private contractors would be pretty interesting.

VisOne

3rd April 2007, 12:30 PM

Yeah a few extract maps with VIP's been surrounded by bodyguards / mercenary's they shouldn't have rally points either so the insurgents wouldn't be at a loss in that regard.

Decafe

3rd April 2007, 04:26 PM

Yeah I like the thought of a private contractors faction, with say,... a Congo oil refinery type scenario, or as Vis said a bodyguard in Iraq/Saudi type scenario looking after foreign workers?

CombatKiwi

3rd April 2007, 05:41 PM

Hey, AUS forces would be cool, and one of the extracts could be to drag a VIP of a smoking Hercules! :D

Sandy_Beret

3rd April 2007, 07:03 PM

Hey, AUS forces would be cool, and one of the extracts could be to drag a VIP of a smoking Hercules! :D

or drag a smoking VIP off a Hercules... sort of has a gay sound to it... and speaking of which... I can see everyone avoided responding to my Morris Dancer faction suggestion...

just a joke...
lighten up a bit

Kindros

3rd April 2007, 08:26 PM

Yeah it would have to the smoking VIP because is anyone knew it would be a VVIP like the prime minister the SASR would turn around and carbine his ass while he's being escorted off the smoking herc.

CombatKiwi

3rd April 2007, 08:33 PM

Sorry sandy, at the request of so many members, I erased their short term memories of the "Morris" incident. It will only haunt them in their dreams now. :lol:

catwaterboy

3rd April 2007, 10:32 PM

Bad.

Current Brit Spec Ops gun is sexy.
i agree its my weapon of choice :P that or the AK47 loud arse yea!
Don't ya just love the sound of a AK47?

LuKing99

4th April 2007, 01:49 AM

I know that it won't be implemented in any mods but i would like to see and Iraqi army on the US/Brit side

lankycheese

5th April 2007, 09:54 AM

I'd love to see a Private Army and a Russian force. Well all I really want is snow levels so which ever comes with that!

Anonymous

5th April 2007, 05:21 PM

Yeah, +1 for russians

Only cos I'm a ArmourWhore and I might be able to get my hands on a T-90 Vladimir .
Admittedly not as good as M1A2 or Challenger II but just as feared on the battle field.

Aphex_Fusion

7th April 2007, 06:33 PM

An Israeli Defense Force and a Hamas Militant Group would make excellent forces for maps such as Golan Heights and Jerusalem.

CDN-SMOKEJUMPER

8th April 2007, 10:35 PM

The new updated C-7 is sexy! I'm biased. :P

Boher

9th April 2007, 11:51 AM

Kindros

9th April 2007, 12:13 PM

I think it was the other way round wasn't it? The Army gets the BH, while the Marines get the Huey's?

Boher

9th April 2007, 12:20 PM

oops, my bad,

you're right. :D

Kindros

9th April 2007, 12:40 PM

Just as long as we never disagree on that subject ;)

icehollowpoint

11th April 2007, 10:25 PM

US army : no the US army and the USMC are not the same thing , id like to see the US army in whatever form they may arise in.

I actually believe the developers are planning to introduce the army to PR at some stage.

I think they'll divide the American maps between the USMC and the army, and the army will fly Hueys whilst the marines will get Blackhawks.

well i tried to decipher some of the mumbled ramblings on the official forums and from what i gathered , the devs had it so that currently you are playing as the US army on some maps in 0.5 , just using the USMC faction in place of the Army of course ...... i dunno , its all a bit confusing. i dunno , i like the USMC faction as it currently is in PR , ill like em even more when they get their M16A4s. but US army? can you imagine playing against a whole team of M4 whores? :roll:

what is it with BF2 players and russians :D ? the POE forums were much the same as this thread filled with cries of adding the Russian army.

SpicEwEazle

16th April 2007, 01:55 PM

I think it was the other way round wasn't it? The Army gets the BH, while the Marines get the Huey's?

Hueys? The U.S army and USMC both use Black hawks

the difference would be in the individual weapons of the soldiers. marines tend to use M16A4, while army uses that but with acog sights, or more commenly the M4 carbine. USMC would also get the AV-8B

What about north/south korea, japan or taiwan. could be a whole korean/taiwan theme going.

Kindros

16th April 2007, 02:15 PM

SpicEwEazle

16th April 2007, 03:12 PM

Ah no they don't... The Marines Use the UH1Y "Huey". It was a mistake made in BF2, which they thought no one would happen to pick up on.

The US Army uses the Black hawk and the Marines Definitely use the Huey.

PS regular army rarely uses a carbine. They are mainly used for CQB because of the smaller length barrel amongst other things.

oops yeah your right. huey are still used by the USMC. my bad

i guess i just assumed the U.S army used the M4 becuase of all the news footage from iraq. lots of M4 there, but that is a hot spot for QCB.
i would still love to see m16a4 with a susat/acoq sight though

VisOne

16th April 2007, 04:23 PM

M16A4 is meant to be implemented very soon although it will most likely remain iron sighted most of these weapons are customized by the line soldier not sent out by the quarter master with sights mounted.

icehollowpoint

16th April 2007, 04:29 PM

yeah chances are they'll follow the current trend of giving the rifleman an optic (probably ACOG) and the rest ironsights,

Lucid Nightmare

16th April 2007, 07:32 PM

All riflemen will be getting optics and it has been confirmed that they will be giving the grenadier class optics as well.

daveee

16th April 2007, 07:37 PM

All riflemen will be getting optics and it has been confirmed that they will be giving the grenadier class optics as well.

Optics for grenadier? You're kidding me ....

Lucid Nightmare

16th April 2007, 07:43 PM

I think it might actually turn out to be a good thing. The optics would increase the chances of them actually using their gun to kill people, instead of strafing in and out from behind a wall, checking to make sure their target is there whilst prepping the nade launcher before firing one off.

daveee

16th April 2007, 07:44 PM

It'll give them the best of both worlds, which will make them a bit too powerful I think..

Lucid Nightmare

16th April 2007, 08:46 PM

Doesn't matter, cause they're limited next patch. You'll also only be able to have two in a squad. Same with the light AT.

daveee

16th April 2007, 08:52 PM

Well thats okay then

Zolteg

22nd April 2007, 08:47 PM

Woudln't mind some afridan derivations.

Angola, including cubans perhaps, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe with mercenaries.

And anywhere we could practically include the SLR. I'd love an SLR as a counterpoint to the G3. I played an afridan map series on Flashpoint, and it rocked. The skins were quite awesome, and the weapons were .... interesting.

And a Falklands - argie/UK Forces. Maybe an airfield assault type map.

Ablack77

3rd May 2007, 10:37 PM

Rhodesia/Zimbabwe with mercenaries.
Now your talking, imagine 7ft mercs, muscle bound wielding 3ft machetes with that "cut your throat out" look in their eye.

icehollowpoint

3rd May 2007, 10:52 PM

Rhodesia/Zimbabwe with mercenaries.
Now your talking, imagine 7ft mercs, muscle bound wielding 3ft machetes with that "cut your throat out" look in their eye.

youve been watching Tears of the Sun too many times mate :P

Ablack77

3rd May 2007, 11:12 PM

youve been watching Tears of the Sun too many times mate :P
LOLZ exactly the movie I was thinking of.

Sgt.trip

4th May 2007, 03:29 AM

Wat bout a UN side where they can start surrounded and out numbered in foreign citys and country sides, but with better weaponry!!!

and come on wouldnt bright blue helmets be jus sooooo fun to shoot off!

but yeah get some aussie or germans in there too so we can us AUG styer's

or even the the french with the FAMAS

icehollowpoint

8th May 2007, 11:22 PM

highly unlikely and i don't think it would be enjoyable with the way PR battles play out , if this were Armed Assault then yeah quite a good idea.

As for the aussie faction , apparently they had the chance to quite easily add them to PR but the australian forces mod refused to share their content , out of fear that they'd lose their small player base to a superior mod i guess. :lol:

Kindros

8th May 2007, 11:34 PM

PR never invited AusForces in that is a misconception. It was a PR forum member who suggested that the AF guys talk to PR about them joining and sharing resources.

AF didn't want to, and that was that, there is no bad blood between either mod team. Maybe at some later stage they may consider it AF that is.

Flanker15

9th May 2007, 12:19 AM

Chickenhawk

9th May 2007, 12:27 AM

On the UGL optics being unbalanced I believe it is a GL aiming sight not a telescopic sight that they will get (the m16 has one that folds out when you equip the GL but you don't use it). To replace the HUD cross hair they have now.

Oh Christ, like in POE2? That sucked something hard core. Seriously. Guess that means I'll just keep eyeballing it I suppose