Wednesday Night is BigD PR Night!!!

[Noddy]

Why not just have a large maplist and we can vote?

IIRC the chosen maps were hardly server fillers... especially without any seeding maps.

[1GeKKo3]

that is also a possibility for coming weeks.

i am picking the maps specifically for a reason....though i'd like to see some good even battles going on with these maps to see how they really play as they are def not perfect and some tweaking will be done as the gameplay becomes more rewarding for all players.

[1GeKKo3]

thanks for all those that turned up. and thanks for rooter getting the server up... sorry for the long round on gaza...not sure it was suppose to be 3 hours.

some really tricky cached that were defended very well.

[[YAK]M]

All the games recently have been 3 hours, it's cos it was never changed after the event.

I had fun even though i only played for 20mins or so.

Blowing up the tank at the very end was fun Crawled under it with an arty IED

Then being a civi and surprising some of IDF

[snowman777a]

Awesome game for my first one back in a long time, even managed to work why I wasn't hearing VOIP to the end. I saw the whole thing [YAK]M, I even got injured from that blast from miles away! It was epic, I hope to see as many on the next couple of nights!

[SGTJohnPorter]

Originally Posted by 1GeKKo3

that is also a possibility for coming weeks.

i am picking the maps specifically for a reason....though i'd like to see some good even battles going on with these maps to see how they really play as they are def not perfect and some tweaking will be done as the gameplay becomes more rewarding for all players.

A decent number (30 odd) and we had an epic round on Gaza, as discussed already. Hamas held out one the last cache for about 30mins, with 10 secs to go about 8 IDF entered the building, only to run out of time!!
Great round.

I'd like to see some other maps included, some not so played ones like Iron Eagle, Op Ghost Train... just a thought, I'm aware some maps are server killers tho. Personally I enjoy jungle warfare types or urban (like Ramiel). Infantry all the way too. what about the viet maps? like them, esp the m4....!!!???

A few players also jump on CIA / Hardcore servers in the US after Big D dies down. Get together on the same side and let Aussies dominant. Hell Yak, Aux. Steveo, [WC] snuffie and myself were in the top 5 or so- we were beaten badly tho.

Also, the CIA server has an ingame vote system- for the type (insurgency/AAS etc and for the map).....Can we do the same???

Cheers to keeping PR alive and strong!!

[Ford_Jam]

Originally Posted by SGTJohnPorter

Also, the CIA server has an ingame vote system- for the type (insurgency/AAS etc and for the map).....Can we do the same???

Map voting is done on BigD, although not nearly as often as it is on CIA.

[snowman777a]

I think playing insurgency works with lower numbers, where as AAS needs a few more numbers to get up and going. I will jump on the next couple if we have insurgency games going.

[Pudgeinabowl]

Originally Posted by snowman777a

I think playing insurgency works with lower numbers, where as AAS needs a few more numbers to get up and going. I will jump on the next couple if we have insurgency games going.

It depends, low number INS games can be incredibly boring for the OPFOR, and irritating for the BLUFOR, as once the first cache goes down, there's really nothing to do except hide/fake cache and walk around looking for unknowns or waiting to be mowed down by a pkm. INS is pretty much made for high numbers (ticket count, assets and intel).

Small AAS maps on the other hand focus the fight to the flags, and scale well as the numbers increase.

Maps like Tad Sae, Ghost Train, Asad Khal and Gaza (if we could ever get the flags to be non retarded and go inside the city) are all excellently sized for low numbers, as you don't need any sort of vehicle to get around.

Qwai river and Muttrah are also good second seed maps, as they're both popular, conventional forces facing off and work with ~25+ players.

On the other hand, stick 10 people on Lashkar valley, and watch the germans all RQ.

[Usavish_Rabbit]

what i already said "new maps pack will certainly do" but it depends on PR development. I think ppl just sick of the old regularly maps rotation imo.

[1GeKKo3]

it's more like Pudge said....it's not about what the map is, it's about how it will play with low numbers and working on bringing new players up to speed and introducing players to higher levels of teamwork and strategy.

last night a lot of the attacks on caches were 2 or 3 people getting close to the cache but being out numbered. or someone ending up on a cache by themselves and not enough incendiaries to take it down and this really should not happen.

Unfortunately most small AAS maps are scoped vs unscoped armies, which is why gaza and asad khal are a good choice back to back because both sides get a turn with each type of weapon in close combat situations.

PR was not developed for small numbers on the server. The skirmish layers are for comps and most don't play well fro pub matches.

i try to add a larger map with vehicles for later on when the server numbers build, but that can still be played with medium numbers. op marlin and muttrah are about the only choice with both sides having the choice of scopes.

[1GeKKo3]

maplist.append fallujah_west|gpm_in surgency|inf
maplist.append asad_khal|gpm_cq|alt
maplist.append assault_on_mestia|gp m_cq|inf
maplist.append silent_eagle|gpm_cq| std

new maplist for wednesday night....was trying to add a vietnam map too, but they don't appear on the all maps list in the first post of server thread...

[[YAK]M]

Looks good gek, too bad i'll be working till 9:30

[Zardez]

i think ins works well with small numbers, we only had 12 on the server last night and it was great fun, giving them a round about location of where to look and then defending it was really good, if people would just stop WAITING for the server to fill up, and just come and join we would get 20 - 30+ every night.

(it's 5:51 pm and currently 34 people on the forums)

[Ford_Jam]

Originally Posted by Zardez

(it's 5:51 pm and currently 34 people on the forums)

People keep using this kind of argument to get people to join but I dunno why...

At the moment I'm sitting in bed on my laptop and waiting for dinner. I'm not really in a position to play PR (nor can I be bothered getting in to that position for an empty server). I'm sure a lot of other poeple just want to browse the forums and catch up this early in the evening. I mean, this isn't no hey day from about 12 months ago when the server would be nearly full at this time of a night

[1GeKKo3]

Originally Posted by Zardez

i think ins works well with small numbers, we only had 12 on the server last night and it was great fun, giving them a round about location of where to look and then defending it was really good, if people would just stop WAITING for the server to fill up, and just come and join we would get 20 - 30+ every night.

(it's 5:51 pm and currently 34 people on the forums)

this is the idea of the wednesday night...if the server is empty at 6:30, you know it will be 20+ at 7:30 so you can organise your PR play around wednesday knowing that there will be numbers on.

If there are people out there who will only play when the numbers are high enough then they will hopefully target wednesday nights....

and then hopefully the numbers will build week to week each wednesday night. if the gameplay on these nights is even and enjoyable for all then we could look at extending it to another night too.

crossing my fingers that the server will not be empty tomorrow night :S

[Zardez]

currently because life is pretty cruisy, i can play most nights (except friday and unfortunately most wednesdays) hoping the numbers spill over into other days!

[Noddy]

maplist for tonight changed

mapList.append operation_marlin gpm_skirmish 16
mapList.append pavlovsk_bay gpm_skirmish 16
mapList.append vadso_city gpm_skirmish 16
mapList.append black_gold gpm_skirmish 16
maplist.append fallujah_west gpm_insurgency 16
maplist.append asad_khal gpm_cq 32
maplist.append assault_on_mestia gp m_cq 16
maplist.append silent_eagle gpm_cq 64


(note some skirmish added to keep the seeders entertained before the main event)

[Ford_Jam]

Gentleman and a scholar!

[1GeKKo3]

cheers noddy!!