Any shooters out there?

[snowman777a]

Originally Posted by SamEEE

Shot NRA National Championships today in the 480 Match.

Came 2nd Overall for the match; in fact it was a tie but I came second on part of 4 'x' count (lost out to an open gun on the barricade stage!).

Top of my class (metallic sights) using a club Ruger Mk.2 which is very old and loose. Also shot a personal best on the moving-man target. 116/120 with 8x.

Feels good man. Time to get serious I think and pick up a gun of my own.

I'm thinking of a new toy aswell, not sure what other synthetic U/O's there are but this one looks promising.

[SamEEE]

Oh yeah? What make is it? Can't much comment on Shotguns other than I like Berettas & the Remington 870.

[Bammo]

Pretty sure that ones a Hatsan (Turkish I think). The Browning Cynergy series is tres nice!

[Zardez]

Originally Posted by snowman777a

I'm thinking of a new toy aswell, not sure what other synthetic U/O's there are but this one looks promising.

looks like the escort
shouldered one once, it was heavy and didn't point well at all, but it may just not fit me

[snowman777a]

I think I'm in love...with the Remington 7615!

With a few mods (probably on the extreme side of things!)

[Soulrogue]

as close to a semi as you can get without getting a semi, really nice gun in 223 or 308 and more accurate than you would think with a short barrel like that.. only draw back is the weight, the pump is a little stiff on the ones i used but they were neigh brand-new.

[snowman777a]

Originally Posted by Soulrogue

as close to a semi as you can get without getting a semi, really nice gun in 223 or 308 and more accurate than you would think with a short barrel like that.. only draw back is the weight, the pump is a little stiff on the ones i used but they were neigh brand-new.

Heavy? My only issue is the 7615/P only comes in .223 (5.56) or .308 (7.62), I'm looking for something smaller and already have a .270 so a .308 is out of the question and the .223 tends to be a useless calibre (ie; too light for pigs & too heavy for rabits/foxes).

[SamEEE]

Why not just a semi automatic?

Rock River Arms is good. LAR-15 model. Spring for the national match model if you can afford.



Don't have to muck around pumping. 223 is sufficient for pigs in my experience.

[deggy]

223 is plenty power full enough for pigs snowman and is a great all round riffle, with different loads and projectiles you can hunt pretty much anything, and fairly cheap to reload and maintain.

[snowman777a]

Originally Posted by SamEEE

Why not just a semi automatic?

Rock River Arms is good. LAR-15 model. Spring for the national match model if you can afford.



Don't have to muck around pumping. 223 is sufficient for pigs in my experience.

That's why...

[Zardez]

.223 is not 5.56, same dimensions, but not the same thing, same with 308 and 7.62.

223 isn't to big for foxes, it's over kill in rabbits, but unless you plan on eating them, what's the difference?

.223 is too small for pig hunting.
Most pigs can be had with a .223 but some can't, hate to let a big pesky one go because you don't have the firepower.

Perfect calibers for Australia imo is
.22 for rabbits and close range fox
.223 for long distance rabbits and mid-long range fox
.308 for deer and pigs (larger if you live in buffalo country and intend to hunt them)
12g for targets, rabbits in tight scrub, fox whistling
And pigs in tight scrub

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

Originally Posted by SamEEE

Some tighter laws for illegal guns in Australia.

You guys are also apparently getting a national register. Commonly regarded world over (see Canada) as an expensive waste of time.

I'll just leave this here. Would cause your anti-gun people to sh!t their pants.


Write your Representative a letter telling him/her that gun registers are an expensive waste of time. Include the Canadian example.

Let this be a warning to New Zealanders - this is what happens when you bow to politics; only outlaws have guns.

A rifle is just a bit of machined steel and timber capable of spitting out a bit of lead quickly. Without malicious intent it is no more dangerous than a pair of shoes. Don't let your current privileges be further stripped back - it is teetering on the point at which there is no return for the lawful owners to pursue their sport. Making it more unattractive to take up the hobby is only going to lead to it dying out.

As for the current gun owners - take a kid shooting. Teach them safe practices which will lead them to being responsible firearms owners.

TLDR - great sport being eroded by erroneous politics. Don't let it happen.

Such a huge waste of time and money in Canada that we got rid of it. I didn't have to register my new shotgun.



Will I be able to bring my firearms back to Australia when I return?

[Saltbush]

Hmm Smoke... the bureaucratic ties that bind...

I'm looking for a
"Genuine Reason Address" to renew my license next year - the last two I've lost contact with the guys (changing priorities)but never actually shot on their properties.

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

Can't a genuine reason be, Skeet shooting is f'ing awesome!!?!?!?


It's stupid in Australia that, I don't like people kicking in my front door at 3am isn't a good reason......

I have the following for that nonsense

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Mostly and seriously though I bought it for bear defence. My Aussie missus was heavily anti firearm until she moved to Northern Canada. Grizzlies are bloody big and if you accidently find yourself between momma and her cubs you best be packin.

SSG or Magnum Buckshot and some 3" 12Gauge slug mix for bush walking up here.


Maybe Australia needs more nasty critters of the large carnivore variety? Yeah, Australia needs more stuff that can kill you!

[Shifty.au]

Blame it all on the red belly snakes

[SamEEE]

Cast a few 455 Webley projectiles (262 grain Mk.1 ball) this afternoon. Nice and relaxing - got another box full for the next outing.


Circle of life; range scrap to projectile.

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

So as an Australian Citizen can I get a firearms license in NZed? Maybe I'll store them there and fly over for shooting?

If I get my hands on an M1 Garrand I want to keep it. No way to have a semi auto in Oz period right?

Oh and is that ammo for a webley revolver?

[mo0nbuggy1]

You can have a Semi-Auto if your a professional hunter and have a D class license. It's impossible to get unless you plan on using as your main source of in-come.

Explained on this nufty's channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/steveleeilikeguns

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

I could not take part in a cull. It would bother me too much.

I want to take the odd deer and shoot clay or paper.

[SamEEE]

Originally Posted by CDN-SMOKEJUMPER

So as an Australian Citizen can I get a firearms license in NZed? Maybe I'll store them there and fly over for shooting?

Erm, you need to live here to keep them. You might be able to find someone to hold them for you if they are general license items and each time you came over you could just get a visitors license but with a Pistol or MSSA you couldn't do it.

M1 Garand falls under the rules of a MSSA here (bayonet lug & magazine capacity greater than 7 rounds).

In short you need a big steel safe and a reason to own an MSSA. Sporting (3 gun, service rifle) and pest culling are good reasons.

M14 Norinco on the other hand; that is general license material and you can load it with stripper clips bloody fast with practice.

Yes, 455 Webley Mk1 ball pictured above. 45 Long Colt brass cut down and rim thinned from the front to Mk.1 455 spec.