Al Basrah (0.6)... dividing sheep and wolves

**Sandy_Beret** · 25th July 2007, 03:04 PM

This map is outstanding and really lets people who play well
exhibit their skill. The destructible buildings are great.
It really shows up who can play and who can't.
A great squad (in both teams) is a wonderful thing.

Those who can't really play, or haven't learn well
enough about how to position themselves in this battlefield -
well, they make great target practise.

Note to new players - you *don't* have to shoot everything
you see. Sometimes it is enough just to spot it for your
squad/team. A good k/d ratio feels great but remember
that it's not how you play the game but whether or not
you (and your team) win or lose that really counts IRL and in PR.

8)

edit - I kicked a player from the server last night for joining my squad,
requesting a sniper/marksman kit and then not listening to orders.
Play for the team, people, even if you want to lone-wolf it. Don't request kits
to use alone like this moron as the kit is a complementary aid for your
squad/team. The standard kits are good enough for lone-wolfing and, quite
frankly, if you don't know how to use a limited kit in terms of squad
tactics, you probably can't use it well alone anyway.

Captain_Wolf · 25th July 2007, 03:23 PM

I totally agree, and remember if you are the Brits:

1. Pick up the kits of any insurgents you kill (you don't have to keep them though) as this gives you 2 intel points to help you locate more ammo dumps quicker.

2. When you find an ammo dump get in blow it then get out. I have seen so many squads in huge fire fights in the middle of nowhere for no reason this is a waste of time and tickets both of which the Brits don't have much to start with.

Lastly use the transport heli to get around the map quickly and avoid unnecessary fighting and when flying keep an eye out as you may be able to spot ammo dumps from the air.

Decafe · 25th July 2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Wolf

I totally agree, and remember if you are the Brits:

1. Pick up the kits of any insurgents you kill (you don't have to keep them though) as this gives you 2 intel points to help you locate more ammo dumps quicker.

2. When you find an ammo dump get in blow it then get out. I have seen so many squads in huge fire fights in the middle of nowhere for no reason this is a waste of time and tickets both of which the Brits don't have much to start with.

Lastly use the transport heli to get around the map quickly and avoid unnecessary fighting and when flying keep an eye out as you may be able to spot ammo dumps from the air.

Cheers for the hints, good squading with ya the other night.

+SiN+headhunter345 · 25th July 2007, 04:10 PM

I've noticed player thinking about strat's to much and not acting enough.
and to often ppl are relaxed while capping flags..

I snuck up on a flag bymyself about 6 times on one map and my squad just keept running straight at it. lol of course you'll get killed there looking that way.

i fraps a covert op do u wanna see it?

Steele · 26th July 2007, 02:26 AM

Sounds good to me

Youtube?

rogue leader · 26th July 2007, 11:30 AM

I have a question about KILLING civilians. I am aware that there is no penalty for running over them in a vehicle or shooting them while they are on a ladder. But can you shoot them while they are in deep water. i.e. water that stops them from being able to access their inventory?

Lucid Nightmare · 26th July 2007, 12:52 PM

nope, cause they still count as an infantry. Not a vehicle according to bf2.

VisOne · 26th July 2007, 05:01 PM

Civilians are only not civilians when there driving vehicles, using ladders or ropes all other times there civies. Pretty sure you can kill them with explosives either when there considered infantry just knife or run em over to be safe.

**Bahlye** · 26th July 2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisOne

Civilians are only not civilians when there driving vehicles, using ladders or ropes all other times there civies. Pretty sure you can kill them with explosives either when there considered infantry just knife or run em over to be safe.

road rage with guns

bishos30 · 26th July 2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

edit - I kicked a player from the server last night for joining my squad,
requesting a sniper/marksman kit and then not listening to orders.

That's kinda harsh, kicking him from your squad should have been enough.

As for Al Basrah, I love it.
I seriously considered turning up sex from my GF to play it the other night. Wish I had, in hindsight.

Chickenhawk · 26th July 2007, 08:24 PM

Quoted Bishos

Ablack77 · 26th July 2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishos30

Quote:

edit - I kicked a player from the server last night for joining my squad,
requesting a sniper/marksman kit and then not listening to orders.

That's kinda harsh, kicking him from your squad should have been enough.

I disagree Bishos!

These are exactly the type of players that the community is complaining about and indeed so am I.
Kicking him from the squad wouldn't do anything, he would have his sniper kit and off he would go lone wolfing,
which if he got used to that tactic every time he played he would just join a squad so he could get the sniper/marksman kit,
he would probably just leave the squad so he didn't have to listen to people giving him orders and there you go,
Another player detracting from the other players gaming experience and in fact giving that team/squad a disadvantage.

If anybody thinks that it's a good tactic to grab a sniper/marksman kit, hide somewhere and pick off the enemy....
well they are fooling themselves.
And I don't give a damn about "certain" players that do exactly that and get a good K/D ratio,
K/D ratio means diddley squat and for those who think it does....PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP PLAYING PR!!!!
There are plenty of sniper kits in BF2, SERIOUSLY play BF2 and grab one of them no one gives a rat's because there are plenty of them around.

PR is different there aren't many kits available and when it comes time to actually NEEDING one to get your squad out of a situation,
there's old numb nuts new player leading a squad with the sniper kit,
he's got 2 kills and is hiding somewhere trying to stay alive, get a good K/D and glorify himself
"Hey look at me I'm the 1337ZOR SN1P3R OH YEAH!!! I just won the whole round look at my score"

All of the limited kits are used best when used within a squad so your squad can heal you, give you ammo, spot enemies and cover your back,
Like Sandy said "they are a complimentry aid for your squad/team"

IMO All players should be discouraging this type of kit whoring at all costs as it is detracting from OUR game!!!
Remember??? Our teamwork orientated game???

And especially MY GAME!!!

Sorry to hijack thread but I had a bee in my bonnet.........GONE NOW!................ .or has it? Muhahahahha!

Remember kids play as a team........for the team :wink:

ON TOPIC: I LOVE 0.6 Al Basrah

**Wokeye** · 27th July 2007, 07:57 AM

Yeah the other night we suddenly had like three snipers in our squad without any warning. Needless to say we couldn't even cap a homie, let alone a flag.

If you wanna host your own lone-wolf snipeyboy gameshow, jump onto a vBF2 server FFS.

CDN-SMOKEJUMPER · 27th July 2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishos30

Quote:

edit - I kicked a player from the server last night for joining my squad,
requesting a sniper/marksman kit and then not listening to orders.

That's kinda harsh, kicking him from your squad should have been enough.

As for Al Basrah, I love it.
I seriously considered turning up sex from my GF to play it the other night. Wish I had, in hindsight.

I disagree, that players selfish actions took away a sniper kit from the entire team. PR in 0.6 is so heavily reliant on teamwork I think it should be enforced. I've played on American servers where you get kicked after a few minutes if you don't join or form a squad.

Again .6 is heavily reliant on teamwork and I definately think it should be enforced especially as the server is now full quite often and people are actually waiting for DC's to get in as I've done a bunch of times for the first time playing in Australia. (run on sentence!) A few kicks will either force them to smarten up or they will discontinue to play. Either way it's a win win situation. I also think joining a squad just to request a kit them leave should be an auto kick. You know very well that he's just going to climb to some remote and useless area of them map and camp it taking away a limited asset from 29 other people.

As for the sex part, I've never passed it up but I have passed up oportunities where I could have got some but chose to keep drinking my beer and play with all my internet buddies like a true geek. Mind you I don't do that too often or eventually I'll come home to a smashed PC and an irate woman.

My girlfriend lets me do what I want but as we all know, you can only push so far before you wonder if you shouldn't sleep around them.

Captain_Wolf · 27th July 2007, 01:44 PM

How about having sex while playing PR, now we're talking. Probably only suitable while on defense though and you better make sure you are not transmitting on VOIP. :oops:

CDN-SMOKEJUMPER · 27th July 2007, 02:12 PM

I used to have TS on voice activation in my clan in the UK. Let's just say it's potentially embarassing and that people are perverts.

householddog · 27th July 2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ablack77

there's old numb nuts new player leading a squad with the sniper kit,
he's got 2 kills and is hiding somewhere trying to stay alive, get a good K/D and glorify himself
"Hey look at me I'm the 1337ZOR SN1P3R OH YEAH!!! I just won the whole round look at my score"

I was wondering what your squad was doing last night.

Ablack77 · 27th July 2007, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Wolf

How about having sex while playing PR, now we're talking. Probably only suitable while on defense though and you better make sure you are not transmitting on VOIP. :oops:

Oh c'mon share....Do it on voip

CDN-SMOKEJUMPER · 27th July 2007, 02:20 PM

If you do I promise it will be posted all over the clan website.

ARSE Clan is a big clan too, having 25 ppl give you **** for over TS is a setup for a very red face. It's a good thing it's the internet!

Captain_Wolf · 27th July 2007, 02:28 PM

Out takes from the upcoming Project Pornality:

"Oh yeah baby take that point, take it"

"I'm going down guys, I'm going down!"

*while getting healed by medic* "Oh yeah that feels great, oh a little to the left... Ahhhh"

"I'm going in guys, cover me!"

25th July 2007, 03:04 PM	#1
Sandy_Beret Ingame Admin Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,896	Al Basrah (0.6)... dividing sheep and wolves This map is outstanding and really lets people who play well exhibit their skill. The destructible buildings are great. It really shows up who can play and who can't. A great squad (in both teams) is a wonderful thing. Those who can't really play, or haven't learn well enough about how to position themselves in this battlefield - well, they make great target practise. Note to new players - you don't have to shoot everything you see. Sometimes it is enough just to spot it for your squad/team. A good k/d ratio feels great but remember that it's not how you play the game but whether or not you (and your team) win or lose that really counts IRL and in PR. 8) edit - I kicked a player from the server last night for joining my squad, requesting a sniper/marksman kit and then not listening to orders. Play for the team, people, even if you want to lone-wolf it. Don't request kits to use alone like this moron as the kit is a complementary aid for your squad/team. The standard kits are good enough for lone-wolfing and, quite frankly, if you don't know how to use a limited kit in terms of squad tactics, you probably can't use it well alone anyway. __________________ "When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill

25th July 2007, 03:23 PM	#2
Captain_Wolf Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wolf Company officer's lounge Posts: 3,858	I totally agree, and remember if you are the Brits: 1. Pick up the kits of any insurgents you kill (you don't have to keep them though) as this gives you 2 intel points to help you locate more ammo dumps quicker. 2. When you find an ammo dump get in blow it then get out. I have seen so many squads in huge fire fights in the middle of nowhere for no reason this is a waste of time and tickets both of which the Brits don't have much to start with. Lastly use the transport heli to get around the map quickly and avoid unnecessary fighting and when flying keep an eye out as you may be able to spot ammo dumps from the air. __________________ Captain Wolf [WC] Major. ------------ pMDw1234 will join Wolf Company, it is just a matter of time.

26th July 2007, 02:26 AM	#5
Steele Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Camberwell, Melbourne Posts: 10	Sounds good to me Youtube? __________________ In game ID: Apocalypso77

26th July 2007, 11:30 AM	#6
rogue leader Wolf Company Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 280	I have a question about KILLING civilians. I am aware that there is no penalty for running over them in a vehicle or shooting them while they are on a ladder. But can you shoot them while they are in deep water. i.e. water that stops them from being able to access their inventory? __________________

26th July 2007, 12:52 PM	#7
Lucid Nightmare Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 1,123	nope, cause they still count as an infantry. Not a vehicle according to bf2. __________________ I'm the dominatrix!

25th July 2007, 04:10 PM	#4
+SiN+headhunter345 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Grid ref, D-6 (num pad 3) Posts: 910	I've noticed player thinking about strat's to much and not acting enough. and to often ppl are relaxed while capping flags.. I snuck up on a flag bymyself about 6 times on one map and my squad just keept running straight at it. lol of course you'll get killed there looking that way. i fraps a covert op do u wanna see it?

26th July 2007, 05:01 PM	#8
VisOne Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisnny-land, QLD Posts: 6,616	Civilians are only not civilians when there driving vehicles, using ladders or ropes all other times there civies. Pretty sure you can kill them with explosives either when there considered infantry just knife or run em over to be safe. __________________

27th July 2007, 07:57 AM	#13
Wokeye [bD] Clan Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dubvegas NSW Posts: 3,259	Yeah the other night we suddenly had like three snipers in our squad without any warning. Needless to say we couldn't even cap a homie, let alone a flag. If you wanna host your own lone-wolf snipeyboy gameshow, jump onto a vBF2 server FFS. __________________ Where's the cheese?

27th July 2007, 01:44 PM	#15
Captain_Wolf Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wolf Company officer's lounge Posts: 3,858	How about having sex while playing PR, now we're talking. Probably only suitable while on defense though and you better make sure you are not transmitting on VOIP. :oops: __________________ Captain Wolf [WC] Major. ------------ pMDw1234 will join Wolf Company, it is just a matter of time.

27th July 2007, 02:12 PM	#16
CDN-SMOKEJUMPER Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,865	I used to have TS on voice activation in my clan in the UK. Let's just say it's potentially embarassing and that people are perverts. __________________ Or as one of many thousands of Canadians have said, my guns are at the bottom of that lake. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. - On Gun Confiscation

27th July 2007, 02:20 PM	#19
CDN-SMOKEJUMPER Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,865	If you do I promise it will be posted all over the clan website. ARSE Clan is a big clan too, having 25 ppl give you ** for over TS is a setup for a very red face. It's a good thing it's the internet! __________________ Or as one of many thousands of Canadians have said, my guns are at the bottom of that lake. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. - On Gun Confiscation**

27th July 2007, 02:28 PM	#20
Captain_Wolf Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wolf Company officer's lounge Posts: 3,858	Out takes from the upcoming Project Pornality: "Oh yeah baby take that point, take it" "I'm going down guys, I'm going down!" while getting healed by medic "Oh yeah that feels great, oh a little to the left... Ahhhh" "I'm going in guys, cover me!" __________________ Captain Wolf [WC] Major. ------------ pMDw1234 will join Wolf Company, it is just a matter of time.

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