APC Vs AA Vehicle

Bammo · 18th January 2008, 12:20 AM

Just playing Oman WAC and went up against a MEC AA vehicle in a LAV-25.

Correction, went up against a MEC AA vehicle in *3* LAV-25's.

Even when I opened fire first the AA vehicle pwned the LAV in about 3 seconds!

Is it supposed to be this way? I thought the AA vehicles were firing explosive ammo unlike the AP stuff in the LAV's? Normally an AA vehicle is death against troops but is very lightly armoured and much easier to kill than an APC, or has this changed?

Psyrus · 18th January 2008, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bammo

Is it supposed to be this way? I thought the AA vehicles were firing explosive ammo unlike the AP stuff in the LAV's? Normally an AA vehicle is death against troops but is very lightly armoured and much easier to kill than an APC, or has this changed?

Dunno but in my experience... the LAV loses to just about anything these days. I have yet to see a LAV win a fight against a chinese or MEC APC... and with the fast firing rate of the Tungsta, I'm confident that in PR the Tungsta would win

. The APCs certainly have low armor, and I'm pretty sure the damage of the AA (fixed and mobile) was beefed up significantly to take on the choppers... so maybe a side effect of that is that the APCs are now raped by the AA. Maybe bring it up on the PR forums?

Madhouse · 18th January 2008, 01:08 AM

i will comfirm is bammo cuz i was in one of the two mec AA's taking out ur LAV's

Bammo · 18th January 2008, 02:12 AM

Thanks Madhouse (not)!

First ragequit in ages

Ablack77 · 18th January 2008, 07:51 AM

not really related but thought you should know,
explosive rounds from the APC's are MUCH more damaging against armoured targets compared to the armour piercing rounds.

as for the AA thingo, i keep getting shot out of tanks when hit by enemy AA,
seems strange yes i know,
tank is undamaged but the crew get shot out immediately.

daveee · 18th January 2008, 08:28 AM

Taking on AA use heat rounds and aim around the AA/nearby ground killing the person using it with splash damage. Much easier than trying to destory the thing itself.

**Bahlye** · 18th January 2008, 11:40 AM

I was in a mec aa vehicle the other day on Oman,and caught a US apc coming off the beach....Killed it easy....it got a few shots off but it still only took about 3 secs to blow it.....

AA vehicle ftw..

pirogoth · 18th January 2008, 11:59 AM

yea i was doing tht last night. kill apc as they came up off the beach. doesnt take long to destroy if holding down fire button, although it does over heat for a sec or too before the apc goes boom

pogoman · 18th January 2008, 12:39 PM

so, is it realistic or not?

daveee · 18th January 2008, 12:48 PM

Who's got an APC and some AA irl to test it?

Madhouse · 18th January 2008, 01:02 PM

USMC vs. Russian Army?

1rankman · 18th January 2008, 01:20 PM

well i created a game at home and it take about 3 sec yea a joke and also a full clip of 650 rounds in the rear will kill a challenger 2 tank

daveee · 18th January 2008, 01:24 PM

How long does it take to empty an entire clip??

Btw: Can you reload AA guns with ammo boxes from supply trucks?

Jim · 18th January 2008, 01:54 PM

Quick check of the manual says regarding vehicles
"Vehicles can be resupplied at the command post, bunkers and firebases"

I have parked an APC next to a supply crate and supply truck before and it did not rearm or repair off either.

"Vehicles can be repaired by an engineer using his wrench. Aircraft and Helicopters automatically repair and rearm at their spawn location".

CDN-SMOKEJUMPER · 18th January 2008, 02:09 PM

I was on an AA gun and shot the hell out of a troop truck with a solid 6 second burst ( think it was longer because he came straight at me and had no where to go ) and had to jump out and shoot the driver with my PPK on Mestia the other day....... AA is weird.

1rankman · 18th January 2008, 02:41 PM

its kill the british afv in about 4 sec
this is with the mec moblie AA

it think it kills APCs faster then command trucks

daveee · 18th January 2008, 02:52 PM

I mean with stand alone AA sorry..Like commander asset AA.

Bammo · 18th January 2008, 03:47 PM

Yeah daveee I guessed you were talking about the fixed emplacement! I think that the AA vehicle (the Tungusta) is modelled wrong in game. IRL they are *very* lightly armoured and the twin 37mm cannons fire a proximity fused round that produces lots of shrapnel effective against thin skinned aircraft but not against an APC. With the single crew capability it is very unbalanced.

Blacky is the HEI ammo really more effective than the APFDS against armour? Am I right in recalling that this is reversed from 0.6?

Mayhaps Ancientman could offer this observation for the next patch?

Jim · 18th January 2008, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveee

I mean with stand alone AA sorry..Like commander asset AA.

Oh right. We didnt end up testing that the other night....

Guide has no info and I couldnt find a reference on the PR forums.
Have to test it.

Slavak · 18th January 2008, 04:02 PM

A-10's arn't carrier based

18th January 2008, 12:20 AM	#1
Bammo [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Floreat, Western Australia Posts: 479	APC Vs AA Vehicle Just playing Oman WAC and went up against a MEC AA vehicle in a LAV-25. Correction, went up against a MEC AA vehicle in 3 LAV-25's. Even when I opened fire first the AA vehicle pwned the LAV in about 3 seconds! Is it supposed to be this way? I thought the AA vehicles were firing explosive ammo unlike the AP stuff in the LAV's? Normally an AA vehicle is death against troops but is very lightly armoured and much easier to kill than an APC, or has this changed?

18th January 2008, 01:08 AM	#3
Madhouse [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Goulburn, NSW Posts: 2,299	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle i will comfirm is bammo cuz i was in one of the two mec AA's taking out ur LAV's __________________

18th January 2008, 02:12 AM	#4
Bammo [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Floreat, Western Australia Posts: 479	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle Thanks Madhouse (not)! First ragequit in ages

18th January 2008, 07:51 AM	#5
Ablack77 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bat Country Posts: 2,111	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle not really related but thought you should know, explosive rounds from the APC's are MUCH more damaging against armoured targets compared to the armour piercing rounds. as for the AA thingo, i keep getting shot out of tanks when hit by enemy AA, seems strange yes i know, tank is undamaged but the crew get shot out immediately. __________________ There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. reportplayers@bigdga ming.net

18th January 2008, 08:28 AM	#6
daveee Wolf Company Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Stickville, Sydney Posts: 3,263	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle Taking on AA use heat rounds and aim around the AA/nearby ground killing the person using it with splash damage. Much easier than trying to destory the thing itself. __________________ proud supporter of EA

18th January 2008, 11:40 AM	#7
Bahlye Head Admin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On the Zef Throne in the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy Posts: 10,213	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle I was in a mec aa vehicle the other day on Oman,and caught a US apc coming off the beach....Killed it easy....it got a few shots off but it still only took about 3 secs to blow it..... AA vehicle ftw.. __________________ " The real victors of this war are the flies. "

18th January 2008, 11:59 AM	#8
pirogoth [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 176	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle yea i was doing tht last night. kill apc as they came up off the beach. doesnt take long to destroy if holding down fire button, although it does over heat for a sec or too before the apc goes boom

18th January 2008, 12:39 PM	#9
pogoman Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth Posts: 1,895	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle so, is it realistic or not? __________________

18th January 2008, 12:48 PM	#10
daveee Wolf Company Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Stickville, Sydney Posts: 3,263	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle Who's got an APC and some AA irl to test it? __________________ proud supporter of EA

18th January 2008, 01:02 PM	#11
Madhouse [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Goulburn, NSW Posts: 2,299	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle USMC vs. Russian Army? __________________

18th January 2008, 01:20 PM	#12
1rankman Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: got on plane, dont know where i am now Posts: 720	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle well i created a game at home and it take about 3 sec yea a joke and also a full clip of 650 rounds in the rear will kill a challenger 2 tank __________________ idiots are hardcoded

18th January 2008, 01:24 PM	#13
daveee Wolf Company Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Stickville, Sydney Posts: 3,263	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle How long does it take to empty an entire clip?? Btw: Can you reload AA guns with ammo boxes from supply trucks? __________________ proud supporter of EA

18th January 2008, 01:54 PM	#14
Jim Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 4,014	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle Quick check of the manual says regarding vehicles "Vehicles can be resupplied at the command post, bunkers and firebases" I have parked an APC next to a supply crate and supply truck before and it did not rearm or repair off either. "Vehicles can be repaired by an engineer using his wrench. Aircraft and Helicopters automatically repair and rearm at their spawn location". __________________ Click here to see who runs this ship

18th January 2008, 02:09 PM	#15
CDN-SMOKEJUMPER Wolf Company Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,865	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle I was on an AA gun and shot the hell out of a troop truck with a solid 6 second burst ( think it was longer because he came straight at me and had no where to go ) and had to jump out and shoot the driver with my PPK on Mestia the other day....... AA is weird. __________________ Or as one of many thousands of Canadians have said, my guns are at the bottom of that lake. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. - On Gun Confiscation Last edited by CDN-SMOKEJUMPER : 18th January 2008 at 02:10 PM.

18th January 2008, 02:41 PM	#16
1rankman Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: got on plane, dont know where i am now Posts: 720	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle its kill the british afv in about 4 sec this is with the mec moblie AA it think it kills APCs faster then command trucks __________________ idiots are hardcoded

18th January 2008, 02:52 PM	#17
daveee Wolf Company Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Stickville, Sydney Posts: 3,263	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle I mean with stand alone AA sorry..Like commander asset AA. __________________ proud supporter of EA

18th January 2008, 03:47 PM	#18
Bammo [N/A] Team Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Floreat, Western Australia Posts: 479	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle Yeah daveee I guessed you were talking about the fixed emplacement! I think that the AA vehicle (the Tungusta) is modelled wrong in game. IRL they are very lightly armoured and the twin 37mm cannons fire a proximity fused round that produces lots of shrapnel effective against thin skinned aircraft but not against an APC. With the single crew capability it is very unbalanced. Blacky is the HEI ammo really more effective than the APFDS against armour? Am I right in recalling that this is reversed from 0.6? Mayhaps Ancientman could offer this observation for the next patch?

18th January 2008, 04:02 PM	#20
Slavak Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,921	Re: APC Vs AA Vehicle A-10's arn't carrier based

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